AN INTERVIEW WITH JEREMY CORBELL
On the evening of June 23rd, we spoke with Jeremy Corbell, a documentary film maker and the man who, together with investigative reporter George Knapp, has been responsible for the recent accelerated interest in the subject of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena. In April 2021, Corbell posted night vision footage, filmed in July 2019 off the coast of San Diego from the deck of the United States Navy destroyer, USS Russell (DDG 59), which showed triangular - or pyramidal - shaped objects above the ship. A full account of the incident can be found on Corbell’s website, Extraordinary Beliefs.com.
Less than two weeks later further footage of a fast moving spherical object was posted by Corbell regarding an encounter involving the littoral combat ship USS Omaha (LCS-12), on the evening of July 15th 2019, again with the incident described, with extra data and information points on his website. Further details were released during the month of May including radar data filmed in the Combat Information Centre of the USS Omaha by a VIPER (Visual Intelligence Personnel) team onboard.
Having spoken with Jeremy a number of times for the magazine Shadows Of Your Mind, we reached out to catch up and find out how he came by the footage. What follows is an excerpt of a longer interview which will be available to journalists on request. Details at the bottom of the page.
UAPMediaUK: You were instrumental in bringing out Commander David Fravor to publicly talk about his experience of the 2004 USS Nimitz Tic-Tac event that kind of started everything off to where we get to today.
Jeremy Corbell: Yeah, that was not easy. You know, it was like, five, six years of earning his trust telling him "Look, I'm not going to spill beans." But how he found out about all the coverage? I told him. I called him up and said "It's all over the news, but it wasn't me." And he's like, "What?" And he had no idea. And yeah, that started this whole kind of tidal wave.
UAPM: You were speaking with Cmmdr. Fravor for five or six years, gaining this trust, meanwhile you were also speaking to people like Chad Underwood, who filmed the infamous TicTac footage?
JC: Yes. For many, many years, I was developing my sources, the most robust set of sources and dialogues from every level of the operations during that time frame. I kept everybody's confidence and I think they spread the word. So, I think that's now why everybody kind of knows that I can keep secrets.
UAPM: After Cmmdr. Fravor came out we had the History Channel show Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation, which also moved the conversation forward a great deal with the calibre of military witnesses, some of whom were also involved with that event, such as Petty Officer 3rd Class Gary Voorhis and Chief Master-At-Arms Sean Cahill, who were serving aboard the USS Princeton, part of the Nimitz Carrier Group.
JC: That show was great. I do know that whenever pop culture interacts with what is important to the population, then we're doing something right. So television becomes a vehicle for educating a mass audience on the fundamentals. And that's what I saw with Unidentified, is they increased the frequency and quality of conversation.
UAPM: During this time you were building trust and your name was becoming known to military witnesses, similar to those featured in Unidentified?
JC: Due to my work, from the moment people realised that I had been working on this for years quietly, and people in the military started spreading the word that I do keep trust, that they can trust me, that I make sure things are not classified, I don't willy-nilly just release stuff, and that word spread. Now, my reality is, I get at least 100 emails an hour, where people are sending me footage, civilian and military. We're talking stories, audio, visuals…you're gonna see a lot more footage, some of which is military obviously, some of which is not.
The private realm adopts sensor technology faster than the military will, because the military has to bulletproof it for war, whereas expensive private jets have these synthetic optics systems that are more advanced than some of what we have in our military. So, to give you an example, the cacophony of data footage and information that's been coming into me at an increasing rate for the last five years has reached a level of critical mass where I'm going to be releasing stuff as I vet it over time, but I'm not going to take forever.
UAPM: The chances are that there will be some people trying to push false information or data and trying to trip you up. How do you guard yourself against that, what is your elimination process before you begin investigating footage further?
JC: There are high level versions of this and then there are just low level versions of this. I want to be straightforward. As an example, UFOs are a global phenomenon. There are other nations, which would benefit greatly from trying to find out some of the sources and methods that I'm experiencing, to collect data that they would love to have prior to our Pentagon, which is, in fact, what happened. The information that I got, the visual information, I'm going to be really open about this, the Pentagon did not have all of it. The right people at the Pentagon did not have all of this. So, I'm doing a service in a way, in my mind, and I think I've convinced others of that, and that the system is broken. If people can’t report it, if they can't put all the data forward, if it's tried to be dismissed, then I shouldn't exist in this kind of mechanism of data collection. But the reality is, they've got so many other things going on. They don't make it easy for people. So unfortunately, people feel the need to go outside of their circles to make sure this information gets forward but I make sure I do it the right way and that's why people trust me, I think.
With that said, I'm dealing with problems at a strange level sometimes, like the easy version is people sending me bullshit because they want attention, right? The more difficult version is when a foreign nation whose media, as an example, is all state run. Naively, I thought I should go on this show, even though it's another country, because this is a global phenomenon. I come to find out the whole interview was just sent up the chain of command and that it was never going to be aired. I made a mistake. That's okay because no one's going get anything out of me in an interview that other people don't, so they didn't get anything they couldn't watch on the news. It was just the attempt that had not been confirmed to me that made me realise I have to think about this on a deeper level. This is a national security issue for all the major technologically advanced powers on planet Earth. They all want a leg up on each other. I'm stuck in the middle of some of that, but I would never do anything to harm the country that I live in.
UAPM: Have you had similar footage to what you've released recently, supplied to you from other countries military?
JC: Yes. More dramatic, higher fidelity, over sensitive military installations.
There's still a stigma to a higher degree in other countries, like, let's just talk about the UK. People in high positions in Parliament have reached out to me to tell me 'I want to help. However, you need to understand I need to stay anonymous, because the stigma here is worse than in the US.' I would have to make sure that this individual wanted that kind of communication at this moment in their political career.
UAPM: Let's go back to April this year, when you released the 'pyramid' footage, as it's known, from the USS Russell encounter of July 2019? How long did you have that footage and how long did it take to decide that you wanted to release that? Were you prepared for the storm that came after it?
JC: I couldn't have prepared for what's happened. But I did know what I was doing. I had not only the footage, but an understanding of what was going on a bigger scale than an individual ship very shortly after it happened and that's because of spending many years having sources. However, I never take anything on face value. I'll tell you when I decided to release all this. I was talking with veteran investigative reporter George Knapp, and our job is not to hide anything, it's reporting, it's getting everything out but you have to do it responsibly. Some people don't understand that. I can't just get an email and turn around and put it on my social media. So, shortly after the event I was aware and then information and data came forward pretty rapidly after that.
I think people can understand that the video by itself would be hard to acquire? I have multiple versions of this video, I chose the best one. So if you read between the lines, I'm telling you that it's not a single person giving me this data. The bullshit idea that it is people in the UAPTF, within the government, the Pentagon, they're not leaking shit. I can 100% tell you there have been no leaks in those types of systems. So obtaining is one thing, footage etc. checking to make sure that none of it is affecting national security and then informing the powers that be what I have as a journalist, with George Knapp, and then being responsible, saying we are putting this out, we know it's not classified, we're just confirming. That then allows our Pentagon to be aware of it and they're pretty honest people, to some degree, so they confirmed my videos immediately, right? But that's by design.
So it was a conversation with George Knapp and I said to him it really feels like this is the time that we have a chance to influence policy and he was telling me this too. So ethically, how do we do it? You protect your sources at all costs. You make sure things are not classified. You put it out in a digestible way, but you do so in a smart way so a lot of people are engaging. Mystery Wire released three images out of an FA-18 but George had those pictures for years. The difference was this, I was able to be exposed to unclassified materials that are contained within a classified briefing. I was able to acquire images and video and put those out. The world was never going to see those slides or the videos that came out, we were never going to see the FA-18 stuff. It was all confirmed through multiple sources that the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force were studying these videos, that they have sensor data, they have information that shows these are craft of unknown origin, some of which outpaced, outmanoeuvred and outperformed our greatest worships and warplanes. So I'm reporting that these are unidentified, that they're machines. I didn't make up the word ‘pyramids’ to describe these things, that's in the classified report. In the unclassified part of the report, they said they are triangle in shape by angle of observation, which means they're not triangle in shape, they're pyramids! It was really sneaky.
We put it out because George Knapp and I decided that we were confident with the material beyond a shadow of a doubt. Everything we've said is 100% verified, beyond what the public can verify. We let it out and we're doing it at a rate that we think is going to add to the conversation and uplift the educational value of the materials and we have just begun. I was forced into letting out the radar footage faster than I wanted, because there were leaks by the intelligence agencies, so we put it out.
I am going to release additional corroborated visual evidence to continue to build the case and that is going to come out soon. I don't want to give you a date, because then everybody will know. Of course there's more that I can never release because it is classified information. I am sure that they have satellite imagery but I would not be able to possess or release that because that's inherently classified.
I'm vetting this material to the highest standard I have ever seen. I'm vetting material, people and footage and I'm doing things that are so technologically elevated to confirm beyond the words of sources that this is real. You have had the Pentagon on three or four occasions now confirm the footage that George Knapp and I have released: the videos, the slides, still photographs, confirmation that they are filmed by Navy personnel from the warships, from the Combat Information Centres, which is, by the way, a highly classified centre. Additionally, these are unidentified and they are part of the UAP Task Force current active investigation.
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The second half of the interview covers the following:
The hotspot of UFO/UAP sightings and Navy encounters around the islands of Catalina, Guadeloupe and San Clemente
– the so-called Channel Islands off the coast of California.The existence of footage that rivals the Phoenix Lights events of 1997.
Possible explanations for the manoeuvrability of UAP such as the Tic Tac.
The scientific possession of potential metamaterials and testing thereof.
The theoretical public response to future information drops